Luke Gallows Says Paul Heyman "Can't Be F--king Trusted", Claims Heyman Pushed For OC's Release

Quite a few Club members aren't fond of Heyman...

They may be Good Brothers, but they're apparently not Paul Heyman Guys.

Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson's eye-opening Talk'N Shop episode didn't paint the recently-deposed Raw Executive Director in the best of lights, especially due to the allegation that Heyman was behind the duo's WWE release.

Anderson described issues he'd had with Heyman wanting the two to lose to Ricochet in very quick matches last autumn, but the real vitriol came from Gallows.

"It's great to be a good charmer, but when you're 100% full of bulls**t -- we had this conversation in a rental car before we got on the phone with him," Gallows remembers. "'All you ever read, all these guys that came before us, is that he's a great charmer but the biggest bulls**tter in the history of the business.' We're both going, 'We hope he's not bulls**tting us.' We have these big contracts, we're rolling with AJ, you gotta think positive. 

"To the end, he's putting us over and telling us how good we are and 'we're gonna put the straps on you a month down the line, but you deserve them now, but you're gonna go to Saudi and be the best tag team in the world. If you ever have a problem with creative or if I ever lie to you, go on social media and f**king bury me. F**king put me under the dirt because I f**king deserve it! I want those guys in the locker room to know that I can't f**king be trusted!' 

"Guys in the locker room, he can't f**king be trusted and I just buried him."

Fast forward to April 15, when both men received the news from talent relations head Mark Carrano that they were part of the mass release of performers and staffers. The two say that Heyman was the one who pushed for them to be released.

"Brodie Lee texted me and goes, 'They f**ked you guys,'" Anderson remembers. "We f**ked our friends over or we feel we f**ked them over. We didn't feel good about it because we knew where we wanted to be. Getting that call, it didn't feel good. It took me back to having these conversations with Triple H and he looks at me and goes, 'Dude, I look at you and I see your kids. I think about, what if AEW doesn't last? I can promise you one thing, WWE will always be here.' We stopped being boss and employee at that point and we were, obviously not friends, but two humans talking. 

"I'm not saying that Triple H could have stopped anything or even cared, but hearing that from your boss and then having it happen, it's like damn, they don't give a f**k. Trying to get to the bottom of it, because it did feel weird. Asking around, we heard 'well, it was Paul Heyman inspired.' 'Really?' We told AJ that. He asked somebody what they think of it. That person said 'Yes,'"

He continued, "AJ went to Paul and said, 'Did you fire these guys or put the word in?' Paul said, 'No, you have my word that I didn't do this. If I would have known, I would have gone to bat for them.' AJ went back to the same guy, asked again, and then went to Vince. AJ goes to Vince and said, 'Tell me the truth, is Paul the one that said fire these guys?' Vince told AJ, 'They weren't on my list, but yes, it was a Heyman thing.'"

Gallows affirmed, "He said we were making too much money for what we were doing and he's a f**king liar and a piece of s**t."

(Credit to Fightful for transcription)

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In addition to writing lists and commentaries for Cultaholic, Justin is also a features writer and interviewer for Fighting Spirit Magazine, and is co-author of the WWE-related book Titan Screwed: Lost Smiles, Stunners, and Screwjobs.